Concrete is perfectly adequate, if not recommended, for use as the shower pan base for materials such as stone, tile or mosaic tile to be used as the finish surface as long as there is a proper membrane between the concrete and any vulnerable surrounding material. The ideal mortar for a shower pan is a mix of standard cement mix with sand and Portland cement. This type of mortar creates a great water -resistant barrier that can support the weight of the shower unit.
Most installers recommend putting a bed of mortar down for the shower base to sit on. Before installing the final layer of mortar on the shower pan you will need to install expanded wire mesh on the shower curb, over the PVC pan liner. The wire mesh will cover the entire curb from the inside of the shower pan at the top of the mortar floor over the top of the curb and down to the bathroom floor. First, it is important to determine if there is moisture coming up from the slab.
Those products should help prevent any cracks in the slab from damaging the newly installed tile. A floating floor needs to float, do not put it under the shower pan. It's a waterproof, tileable membrane. You'd make your preslope, then install the Kerdi on it to include the walls and over the curb. Then, the entire shower is waterproof right beneath the tile rather than just the pan. Check out www. There are other choices.
One major error many people make is how they construct the curb. You can't put your waterproofing over it, then nail cement board onto it Many people think tile is what makes a shower waterproof USA building code and most of Europe and many other places recognize that they are not A shower should not damage anything even before you tile it but would make tiling it later tough because of soap scum and other contaminants!
Tile is the decorative, wear surface, not waterproofing. Messages 5 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Location Houston. As a followup, what if you were to waterproof the concrete using a penetrating wood and concrete sealer which is also applied to the wood studs , would you still need a liner?
WorthFlorida The wife is still training me. This is my shower and the work was performed by a licensed plumber. The original slab was recess " below the floor. The old shower had a mortar bed and sloped to the drain with tile. The shower floor was about the same as the finished tile but had to step over about a 3" curb.
For the remodel this motor bed was removed. I'm not sure if the original concrete pour was sloped or had to use mortar to slope to the drain but the walkin is about a 2" step down. The plumber had an issue that it won't meet code but the designer said that it is OK and has been done before.
The plumber placed a rubber stopper into the drain pipe that you pump up to block the water from draining. A few inches of water was placed into the rough in.
How to install shower pan liner on concrete. Everything i have read about mortar pan showers says you have to install a pan liner so that when if the water gets through the tile it will be caught by the liner and drain without causing mold and other problems.
Pouring a concrete shower pan. Shower pan liner is shown in various stages of installation. It will need to be lined or it will wick into the slab and studding. Before you can pour a concrete shower pan, you should frame the area with lumber. How to install a mortar shower pan on concrete. With the wall liner in position mark around its perimeter with a pencil. Just add about 1 foot to both the length and width of your shower pan. How do you install a plastic shower pan on concrete?
For concrete floors backfill with concrete or a similar solid fill material. Then, cover the shower curb with steel mesh. You must use a mix of three parts clean dry sand to one part portland. I considered adhering the liner to the concrete, but then quickly realized the tile and mortar will not adhere to the liner. Install a cement board over the surrounding wall framing.
Therefore, the pan must be installed first. Apply primer and cement to the drain pipe and the flange. Do you need a shower pan liner on concrete floor? If you have a bench you will want the liner to go up and over the bench and then up the wall again about 6 inches.
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